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MAY 19TH 2015










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22nd of May 2015 04:57 PM by Bill Brock
Today's Times carries an interesting obituary of the Italian scholar Barbara Reynolds (1915-2015). She was the first wife of the School's first French teacher, Lewis Thorpe. He was called up in 1940 and did not return to school teaching. Instead he became a lecturer (and later Professor) of French at the University of Nottingham where he published research on Arthurian legends. He died in 1977. His career illustrates what scholarly and first-class teachers headmaster Norden recruited in 1936.
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22nd of May 2015 04:10 PM by David Morris
Welcome to the club Les and hope that you have enjoyed the posts for the 1950s. I think I last saw you at the Hastings office of the Motor Union in the early sixties. If you would like to give your email address to the webmaster I'm sure he will send it on and we can reminisce online.
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21st of May 2015 08:50 PM by Les Green
Only just discovered this site and amazed at the memories. I was at the school between 1952 to 58. One of your main members is David Morris who I worked with at M.U. Insurance Co. when I first left school. Also worked with another old-boy at same place -Nick Garbutt. Remember Les Hamilton quite well as we were the only Les's in our year. If you have David Morris's contact address please pass on my regards.
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15th of May 2015 01:29 PM by James Harwood website: http://jamesharwood2004@yahoo.com
I would like to make contact with any guys in the 1948 to 1953 period,especially Ted Keeper.David Langley was going to put me in touch but haven't heard from him recently. Has been interesting reading past web discussions concerning Bill Lawrence,he was my English teacher and comments in my *Termly Reports* book covering my 5 years written by him would not now dare be written by any teacher,they did in fact have a great effect on me,mostly trying to,prove him wrong. I now live in retirement near Estepona in Spain.............
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12th of May 2015 01:58 PM by peter ballantine
Glad Anton mentioned Paddy Roberts -his lower sixth year on British history was most interesting and a really nice guy.
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7th of May 2015 10:00 PM by Anton Green
I was at HCGS(B) from 1960-68 and I note comments below from train boy Ian Gates who I encountered later when we were both Social Work Team Leaders….hope you still agree Ian that Rise LIke the Sun (Albion Band) is one of the best folk rock albums ever. As to school well my cheek (and natural sense of justice) quite often got me into trouble so I had the cane from both bouncer and the harder hitting tabby. However the teachers I respected were Bill Lawrence (bless him because he truly loved good literature, Ned Land, Ken Garland, Paddy Roberts, Baldy Farrand, Buddy Holly, and I felt pretty positive about Mr Playll as well despite the learn it like a parrot technique. Yes Colin Pope was ok although given to the odd outburst. I'm still in touch with some guys from the old place…sometimes go to re-unions of the elite A stream via my friend Dave Standing and its great when some of my compatriots from the "other" streams like Chris Fosbury, Dave Messeter, Des Vine, Trev Male or Rich Inwood show up. ALso in touch with Peter Ballantine and Malcolm Krohne who were a few years ahead of me through the school….I never deserved those canings of course!!!
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4th of May 2015 01:32 AM by Malcolm Bell (1968 - 1975)
I was never taught by AFW, but did encounter him away from the classroom both on the stage (he was the Pirate King) and at school camp, and I have fond memories of both occasions. The only real violence I recall is a history teacher using his knuckles on a pupil's head.

Jack Liddell and his famous "you 'orrible little boy" made me laugh from a recalled memory - but oh boy, what a fantastic maths teacher. Probably single-handedly responsible for my understanding of basic mathematical processes - leading on to Les Hamilton and the gentle Dave Bennett in 6th form maths, and a resounding Grade B at A level. Peggy Braund's reverent passion for Physics at 6th form was also magnificent. It felt like I was persoanally tutored in the subject, yet I know I was just one of many in his class.

I was a 'star pupil' when it came to summer camp. I went every year from 1968 to 1975, and then was invited back to join the staff right up to 1979 when of course the school as we know it closed its doors. I have a number of photos which I will scan in due course.

Finally, for now, I recall Ned Land getting crimson with anger when he didn't see what was funny about asking - "hands up if you can't hear me at the back" during one assembly when there was (presumably) building works noise outside. I can remember some of the staff seated at the sides of the hall trying hard not to laugh too.

It will be nice to see some comments from younger members in due course - full marks to those of you who have kicked this site off and who have contributed some wonderful memories and sparked excellent debates here.

Hove CGS(B) (as we had to write on the exam scripts) was a special place for all of us, and lets hope these memories and tributes to staff stand the test of time and can be appreciated by families of those named.
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4th of May 2015 01:14 AM by Malcolm Bell (1968 - 1975)
Having caught up with this website I've now found myself reading through all the comments! 3 hours later I'm left with the impression that very little of substance changed during the life of HGS(B) - though I never experienced boxing. Its fascinating how certain staff names appear again and again. To a relative youngster like me many of the names were engrained in school folk-law as they were depicted on that magnificent mural.

I'm pleased that somebody did eventually recall the hair cutting incident which got into the papers. This was in the summer of 1968, a few months before I was due to start there and it filled my mother with horror. Between 1968 and about 1973 a new batch of 'train boys' from Burgess Hill and Hassocks appeared as Haywards Heath Grammar School was 'full up'. The thought of having to travel to school on 2 trains, leaving home at 7.40am AND a school where the headteacher forcibly cut pupils hair filled our collective parents with dread. As it was, their fears were unfounded, and at least for me the 7 years of education at Hove were some of the most formative of my life. I have 3 younger brothers - 2 of us attended Grammar Schools and the other 2 a Secondary Mod. All these years later I don't think you can tell much difference between our achievements in adult life!
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3rd of May 2015 12:43 PM by Malcolm Bell (1968 - 1975)
OK - the 1975 picture of the Barbershop Harmony Group, whichy was the front cover of the school magazine. Left to right, standiing. PC George Beer, Malcolm Bell (me!), Neil Brand, Nick Brewin (head boy 75 yo 76), ONe of the next two is Chris Karley, last one Geoff Pinney. Kneeling, Derek Barton on the right.

The Windmill Barbershop group was promoted by music teacher Mr Brooks and met for about 2 terms to have fun singing in close harmony. We had just one concert - the annual school concert in 1975, which included many of the same character singing G&S excepts.

Not seen him since university but I know Derek went on to do a lot of barbershop singing and I once saw him on telly in a national choir contest!
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3rd of May 2015 12:35 PM by Malcolm Bell
Hi guys - As a 'scientific' 6th former I first encountered Bill Lawrence in his role of teaching the heathens a bit of culture once a week. He was brilliant, and he extolled the virtues of the classics to society. I recall vividly how he set us homework to write an essay entitled "What's your dog's name? I don't know, but we call him Fido". Well, I just sat on the train home and wrote the usual load of old b++++ks and handed it in as required. The next thing I get is Bill Lawrence tracking me down in the corridor saying it was a brilliant essay and he had shown it to all the othe staff. To this day I have no idea what I wrote, but I can always remember that feedback - what a fantastic way to inspire a young 17 year old!
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1st of May 2015 11:42 PM by John Pike
Certainly not in my era 75 on Geoff. We all had the latest branded craze. Adidas, Gola ET al...
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25th of April 2015 04:52 PM by Geoff Stoner
Does anybody know when the provision of service type kitbags ceased to be a requirement for new boys? Or did this carry on until the demise of the school?
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23rd of April 2015 06:27 PM by Webmaster
Hello Phil - we normally scan them to jpeg files - most long photos take at least three scans - our scanner has a platen cover that can be released from its hinge so the photos can be fed through manually . Alternatively we can do the job if you wish - you would have to send them to us and give a return address.
Please use the Email Webmaster tab 4th down on the left panel to reply.
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22nd of April 2015 04:05 PM by Phil Howard
I have the school photos from 1971 and 1974. They are still tightly rolled up and show some signs of age and can share them with the site if someone lets me know the best way of doing it.
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21st of April 2015 05:44 PM by John Pike
Sorry,no. I will ask if I see anyone.
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20th of April 2015 10:05 PM by Webmaster
Hello John (Pike) - do you know of anyone with a copy of any school photos from your era ?
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20th of April 2015 07:25 PM by David Hitchin
My message 1202.

"It was about 1965 (give or take a few years) etc "...

Sorry, it must have been about 1955. It's difficult to realise how long ago it all was.
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20th of April 2015 05:30 PM by Bill Brock
Re-1198, wonderful photo of Bill Thomas and Nobby Clark: this cannot be a Trip in 1946 since Thomas was not appointed to teach maths until September 1947. This suggests photo may be from Easter or Summer 1948.
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20th of April 2015 04:57 PM by David Gregory
Re John Pike's last post. Did anyone ever achieve the feat of appearing in a school photo at both ends?
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19th of April 2015 06:17 PM by Webmaster
Internet connection now re-established.
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16th of April 2015 08:59 PM by John Pike
Re webmaster post 1199 yes school photos definitely taken in my era 1975......the usual high jinks of trying to get in at both ends!
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15th of April 2015 10:19 PM by Mike Stephens
ref the post by Ian Gates - yes Ian it is me ! - thank you for responding - indeed we were both 'train boys' - do you remember we had our own train home - the 16.09 from Aldrington Halt which didn't go into Brighton but used the Cliftonville Spur - as far as I know that train only served our school and maybe one or two others - incredible by today's standards

you mention Bill Lawrence - yes he was special - he made an impact on me - got me reading proper books - one day he asked the class what they'd done at the w/e - I think one lad David Compton (?) said he'd watched films all w/e - Bill exploded and said we should all read something worthwhile like Graham Greene, Somerset Maugham, John Wyndham et al - so I did - one of the best things I did - I'm very glad I did - several of the masters made impacts - I'll never forget Dave Bennett one day teaching us the principles of calculus - it was great - a complex idea made simple
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14th of April 2015 05:39 PM by David Hitchin
It was about 1965 (give or take a few years) that the school magazine published a parody of the Ancient Mariner, something like:
It was an ancient barrow boy
Who stoppeth one in three.
By thy glittering eye and kipper tie,
Now wherefore stoppeth me.

Perhaps someone has a copy of the authentic parody, as well as the one about
Neon, neon, burning bright
In the forest of the night
Jim's best meat.
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14th of April 2015 09:29 AM by Ron Riches
I'm intrigued by the photo of messrs Thomas and Clark on a 1946 school trip. What trip?? They must have sneaked off without telling me. I can only remember one trip during 1944/49, a boring excursion to the Houses of Parliament which I believe were still under repair following bomb damage and I'm sure that Nobby C wouldn't have been allowed to enter in his Desert Rat shorts.

I recall a number of school photos, including a 1948 edition hanging in the corridor but I expect that they suffered a similar fate to the school motto and were ditched when the dear old school was, dare I say, down-graded.

It looks as if you might be getting a reprieve Webmaster!! Amen to that!!
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13th of April 2015 04:41 PM by Ian Gates
Could that recent post be from the same Mike Stephens who lived in Hassocks and was a fellow train boy, I wonder? He and I used to travel together to those swimming lessons at the King Alfred which were also referred to recently, and which were a real hassle to get to for yours truly- bus or bike to Hassocks, train to Brighton, then bus down to the KA. And in any event, for however long I attended (felt like more than two years), I never once managed to let go of the side of the pool, which occasioned much derision from my classmates but never seemed to bother the staff. I still can't swim, and I guess it's too late now! While I'm on, I'd like to endorse the positive comments about Bill Lawrence; as I think I said a while ago on this site, he could be ill-tempered at times, and didn't suffer fools gladly, but truly was an inspirational teacher who cared passionately about his subject and passed that passion on to his pupils. Maybe that's why he wanted he Ancient Mariner to be recited correctly!
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13th of April 2015 10:23 AM by WEBMASTER
The recent addition of the 1950 School Photo prompts us to send out a request for the missing years . We are not sure which years were actually taken but they seem to be generally at two year intervals. We could be missing 1936 ,1948, 1961,1963 and years beyond 1971. The actual years could be different and there may be other gaps of course . Perhaps someone could let us know if School Photos were taken after 1971.
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12th of April 2015 10:37 PM by WEBMASTER
Added to the Gallery and School Photos :
A PHOTO OF MR THOMAS & MR CLARKE (School trip 1946)
All provided by John Steer.
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7th of April 2015 12:51 PM by Peter Ballantine
I agree with Brian that they were happy days. Strangely enough I did not get on with bill Lawrence - I had him for a year and he forever ruined the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner by making us go back to the beginning if anybody made a mistake in reading it aloud. It seemed to go for ever! Brain Short I was very fond of - partly because he was a good teacher and partly because he ran the youth group at Bishop Hannington Church . In later years I met a guy who was taught by him in Liverpool. I believe he ended up as a Head somewhere in Kent. And Willy Pope was always a great character!
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6th of April 2015 09:43 AM by brian smith
I was at HCGS from 1957 the 21st anniversary year when we had a service in Bishop Hannington Church. I want to remember Bill Lawrence my English teacher who lightened up my life with his lessons. I seemed to appreciate his humour more than most. I thought he was a great man. He always gave me good marks for my essays whilst Willie Pope was much more critical but then he had to ride to work on a rather ancient push bike.Bouncer Greatwood was the head who treated me with decency after I'd been sent after swearing in a history lesson with a Mr Short or was it Mr Reynolds who saw me out of school with a girlfriend in the last few weeks before GCE exams.Happy days really and a good school.
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3rd of April 2015 05:04 PM by Mike Stephens
dear all - I was at Hove Grammar between 1960 and 67 and have good memories of the place - a member of Kent House - playing cricket one sublime afternoon when Bob Greed took 8 wickets for 1 run and Gren Miller's deliveries fairly fizzed down the wicket - ah ! what days !

Mike Stephens
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2nd of April 2015 10:59 AM by peter ballantine
Thinking of sporting activities I recall our weekly swimming classes in our first year and part of our second year. We had to be at the King Alfred by 8.45 . Led by Baldy Farrand we were often back late for the second period (dependent on the vagaries of the bus service) much to the irritation of the master in charge of the second period.
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1st of April 2015 09:34 PM by David Lawrence
I haven't looked at this site for some time, so a comment or two for David Morris about posting 1179.
I would confirm that the photo is indeed of Form 4b and was taken at the end of the school year in 1954 and not the French Class.
Thank you for correcting Alan Buckfield's name., plus the omission of Geoff Withnell - I will contact the editor to see whether he can change the details.
However, I'm afraid that Alan Stenning is not in the photo - he was in a different form.
Thanks for the reminder about the javelin throw. I only entered as nobody else volunteered and it was the first ( and only) time I was in this event!
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18th of March 2015 10:18 PM by Paul Wilson
I attended HGSB for a couple of years for the 4th and 5th years from Nov 1966 to July 68.
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16th of March 2015 05:05 PM by Geoff Stoner
Hello John Pike. Well I certainly played cricket, very often in Mid-Sussex, but only in friendlies in a non-league side.
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16th of March 2015 11:44 AM by peter ballantine
In my time I recall there were 4 football pitches but only 3 cricket ones which meant that once a month you were in the nets and went home at 3.45 rather than 4.30.
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14th of March 2015 11:17 PM by John pike
Hello Geoff Stoner, ( anything to do with mid Sussex cricket?) when I supported my brother in the 70s, the first eleven pitch was the bottom east to west and the seconds played on the top east to west. There were two much smaller north to souths where the under 12s 13s etc played. Ten years on when I had followed in my brothers footsteps nothing had changed. I have happy memories of house matches ( super Gloucester) on the smaller north south pitches, but also leading the first eleven to county championships on the bottom east west pitch. Get in!!

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14th of March 2015 07:31 PM by Mick Wright
Pretty sure that looking south from front door, there was an east/west one top left, another e/w bottom right and a north/south top right. However, I know that they changed them from time to time because I also recall a north/south one top left; I took a penalty facing north to the tennis courts and turned my ankle!
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14th of March 2015 01:08 PM by Geoff Stoner
I am trying to recall the configuration of the football pitches on the front field. I think 2 ran east-west on which the House 1st X1s played, but I seem to remember there was only 1 north-south pitch for the 2nd X1s. If so what happened in the case of the remaining 2 teams? Or were there 2 north-south pitches?
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12th of March 2015 06:49 AM by Brian Perrin
Hi, my name is Brian Perrin and I was student at the school from 1947 to 1952 when I left and joined the Royal Navy. In 1966 I migrated to Australia and now live in Toowoomba Queensland with my wife. Looking forward to catching up with old class mates.
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9th of March 2015 08:45 PM by David Morris
Search for Brian Perrin

If this should be the Brian Perrin living in Australia then one of our contributors, John Tester, might be able to help.
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8th of March 2015 06:54 PM by michael robbie
I am trying to trace a cousin Brian Perrin who attended Hove County Grammar School during the period 1948-1954 while I was attending Brighton, Hove & Sussex Grammar School. If anyone knows how I can get in touch with him please email me at www.melmjar@aol.com

Thank you,

Michael Robbie
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2nd of March 2015 02:37 PM by David Morris
Mr Romer's French Class 1953/1954

With reference to post 1181 I need to add a clarification.

At the end of the second paragraph add "apart from Beaumont who is Alan Stenning - see post 1179"
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2nd of March 2015 08:56 AM by peter ballantine
My talk of the delicious Jancis seems to have shut everyone up. I also remember a trip to Stratford to see some Shakespeare (did i go twice? Just not sure here) and of course the famous trip to the Soviet union in the summer of 1964. Went with Malcolm Krohne who later came back as a chemistry teacher and we are lifelong friends.
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21st of February 2015 10:00 PM by David Morris
Mr Romer's French Class of 1953/1954

I believe I have solved the missing name in the photo, I have come across the same photo on a Friend's Reunited schools site. The first lad standing on the left is Waldron but the second is Alan Buckfield ( not Bennett ). The third is C G Withnell - otherwise the names match.

Tony Buckfield reported on this post that his cousin Alan died in a car crash in 1958 with Alan Newman passing away two or so years later again in a road accident

Tony was in the same class as me so if he reads this I send my regards. I seem to remember you as "Billy".
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18th of February 2015 10:02 AM by Peter Ballantine
Thinking of Geography camps. i haveput out a few photos in the Gallery of our camp at Wookey Hole in the Mendips in 1962. I had not enjoyed a scour camp a few years earlier but really enjoyed this. Thanks to Bert Bucket (Playell) Ned (Land) and Willy Pope (the cook!). In the 6th form a few of us went to Juniper Hall for a senior Geography camp not run by the school but one of the national organisations.Met a student from a school in Bedford (Jancis) and we later turned up at the same Geography department at King's London! she was rather nice!
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17th of February 2015 10:19 AM by David Morris
I wonder whether anyone can help me with gallery photograph 110 which I understand was provided by David Lawrence who is in the photograph. This, I think, is the photo for the 1953/1954 French class as Mr Romer left in July 1954 prior to taking up a post at Watford Technical College.

The lad sitting on the grass far right is Alan Stenning who with David Williams came from another class having done well at French in year 1. I have spoken with Alan who confirms that he was a member of the French class.

There is no name for the first lad on the back row. Despite my name I was in 1Z for 4 months and I came up with the name Worley but with little conviction - after all it is almost 60 years since I left school.

I am not the David Morris in the photograph. I was in the C stream. This caused some confusion at a parent's evening when my parents received a report that was not to their liking!

I believe I last met David Lawrence on the 5 June 1958 when you threw the javelin 108 ft and 11ins to win that event at the Hove and Porslade Youth Organisations Sports Day. I, too, had some success that day.
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16th of February 2015 11:24 AM by Geoff Stoner
What has happened to our regular commentator David Langley? It must be about 2 months since he last posted.
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15th of February 2015 08:39 PM by Geoffrey Christopher
Re Post No 1164, David Robertson, I have not logged in for over a month, but am now catching up. You responded to my Post No 1048 about Geography Camps, and I guess that we camped on the same site (Dunscar Farm) as you, although I have no recollection of that detail. We didn't visit a cement works, although I've seen a few, and they all look the same. You mentioned that nobody in your class seemed to have a camera. The one that my brother and I used was a Brownie Box camera, the most simple camera imaginable, and at the time we were using it, it must have been 20 to 30 years old. How times have changed since then!

Geoff Christopher.
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11th of February 2015 10:45 PM by Bill Green
Memories come flooding back prompted by David Gregory's post about the severe winters. Cold linoleum floor coverings in the unheated bedrooms and scratching frost off the inside of our windows and a single anthracite-burning boiler the sole source of heat for the whole house, although it produced great porridge overnight. Central heating unheard of, yet how well and healthily we managed to survive and enjoy those early years.